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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:09 pm    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

It is indeed very sad to read and learn about the structural failures, especially in the hospital, in the recent Indonesian eq; the same thing had happened in Nepal and I hate to say ,it may happen again in NCR if we get a 7.5.
For God’s sake, why are we not implementing the NDMA Hospital Safety Guidelines and designing for Immediate Occupancy at least(if not the Operational category)??
Why are we not getting geared to face failures in high rises and install official mechanisms to help the survivors get together and rebuild their societies and their lives??

Who are we waiting for??


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Sangeeta Wij
President,WISE India
Managing Partner
SD Engineering Consultants LLP
Vice President(North),Indian Association of Structural Engineers,
Fellow and Chartered Engineer, Institution of Engineers
H333 New Rajinder Nagar(Lower Ground Floor),
New Delhi-110060
Ph:9811776210;01145128530


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

Three fault-lines are passing through Delhi and NCR and Supertech is advertising, "our skyscrapers are nearer to moon". Or the future residents will reach earlier in heaven I do not know! But dishonesty in Indian business and commerce in an equally insensitive environments created by Executive and Legislative system of our country, scare me about such deathtraps.

Who , in this country , listen to the concerns highlighted by structural engineers? How much assurance RERA can give , is anybody's guess.


Dipak Bhattacharya / Delhi.


On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 16:53, sangeeta_wij <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:

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           It is indeed very sad to read and learn about the structural failures, especially in the hospital, in the recent Indonesian eq; the same thing had happened in Nepal and I hate to say ,it may happen again in NCR if we get a 7.5.
For God’s sake, why are we not implementing the NDMA Hospital Safety Guidelines and designing for Immediate Occupancy at least(if not the Operational category)??
Why are we not getting geared to face failures in high rises and install official mechanisms to help the survivors get together and rebuild their societies and their lives??

Who are we waiting for??


Best Regards
Sangeeta Wij
President,WISE India
Managing Partner
SD Engineering Consultants LLP
Vice President(North),Indian Association of Structural Engineers,
Fellow and Chartered Engineer, Institution of Engineers
H333 New Rajinder Nagar(Lower Ground Floor),
New Delhi-110060
Ph:9811776210;01145128530


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

Dear Dipak

We’ve been reviewing some Tall structures recently and find many glaring instances of Poor/inadequate designs or designs carried out often by Structural Consultants under pressure from the Architects/ Developers; after nearly 3 years of release, the NDMA guidelines for Hospital Safety are yet to be read/implemented by our fraternity, and about the revised 1893/13920 and 16700, some of our own fraternity have simply not bothered to read through them. No wonder we have a large inventory of Non-Compliant Towers with Flat Plates for high rise Residential developments(failing both in shear and moment at all column junctions) and still being palmed off as Luxury condominiums to unsuspecting customers… The gullible customers so not know these scrapers will fall, and as I said, their survivors will not even know where to begin the rebuilding process…




Best Regards
Sangeeta Wij
President,WISE India
Managing Partner
SD Engineering Consultants LLP
Vice President(North),Indian Association of Structural Engineers,
Fellow and Chartered Engineer, Institution of Engineers
H333 New Rajinder Nagar(Lower Ground Floor),
New Delhi-110060
Ph:9811776210;01145128530


From: dipak_bhattacharya [mailto:forum@sefindia.org]
Sent: 01 October 2018 17:59
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Three fault-lines are passing through Delhi and NCR and Supertech is advertising, "our skyscrapers are nearer to moon". Or the future residents will reach earlier in heaven I do not know! But dishonesty in Indian business and commerce in an equally insensitive environments created by Executive and Legislative system of our country, scare me about such deathtraps.

Who , in this country , listen to the concerns highlighted by structural engineers? How much assurance RERA can give , is anybody's guess.


Dipak Bhattacharya / Delhi.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

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Subject: [SEFI] Re: Hospital collapse
           It is indeed very sad to read and learn about the structural failures, especially in the hospital, in the recent Indonesian eq; the same thing had happened in Nepal and I hate to say ,it may happen again in NCR if we get a 7.5.
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For God’s sake, why are we not implementing the NDMA Hospital Safety Guidelines and designing for Immediate Occupancy at least(if not the Operational category)??
Why are we not getting geared to face failures in high rises and install official mechanisms to help the survivors get together and rebuild their societies and their lives??

Who are we waiting for??


Best Regards
Sangeeta Wij
President,WISE India
Managing Partner
SD Engineering Consultants LLP
Vice President(North),Indian Association of Structural Engineers,
Fellow and Chartered Engineer, Institution of Engineers
H333 New Rajinder Nagar(Lower Ground Floor),
New Delhi-110060
Ph:9811776210;01145128530


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:30 pm    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

Dear Friends

Latest Code IS:1893, makes it compulsory to carryout Dynamic analysis for all buildings irrespective of their height for Zones III, IV and IV.

Only Buildings of less than 15m height in Zone II can be analyzed by Equivalent static method, Who is checking this?

God only should save the people.

Thanking you

Regards

DESAI RAMMOHAN.




From: dipak_bhattacharya [mailto:forum@sefindia.org]
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:59 PM
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Three fault-lines are passing through Delhi and NCR and Supertech is advertising, "our skyscrapers are nearer to moon". Or the future residents will reach earlier in heaven I do not know! But dishonesty in Indian business and commerce in an equally insensitive environments created by Executive and Legislative system of our country, scare me about such deathtraps.

Who , in this country , listen to the concerns highlighted by structural engineers? How much assurance RERA can give , is anybody's guess.


Dipak Bhattacharya / Delhi.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

rammohan.desai wrote:
Dear Friends

Latest Code IS:1893, makes it compulsory to carryout Dynamic analysis for all buildings irrespective of their height for Zones III, IV and IV.

Only Buildings of less than 15m height in Zone II can be analyzed by Equivalent static method, Who  is checking this?

God only should save the people.

Thanking you

Regards

DESAI RAMMOHAN.




From: dipak_bhattacharya [mailto:forum@sefindia.org]
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:59 PM
To: general@sefindia.org
Subject: [SEFI] Re: Hospital collapse



Three fault-lines are passing through Delhi and NCR and Supertech is advertising, "our skyscrapers are nearer to moon". Or the future residents will reach earlier in heaven I do not know! But dishonesty in Indian business and commerce in an equally insensitive environments created by Executive and Legislative system of our country, scare me about such deathtraps.

Who , in this country , listen to the concerns highlighted by structural engineers? How much assurance RERA can give , is anybody's guess.


Dipak Bhattacharya / Delhi.


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Sir,
These discussions are taking place whenever an earthquake or tsunami happened elsewhere on the globe and the seriousness
fade away later. It seems the governments or policy makers should launch a mechanism or body to check the safety of existing sky scrapers in the vicinity of the so called fault lines near Delhi and NCR.
Can any body share the latest code of IS:1893


Er.Manikyalarao,
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Email: ksrao.uma@gmail.com

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:30 am    Post subject: Hospital collapse Reply with quote

Respected sir/ madam,



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Thanking you,
Nikhilesh reddy.






On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:59 AM rammohan.desai <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:

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           Dear Friends

Latest Code IS:1893, makes it compulsory to carryout Dynamic analysis for all buildings irrespective of their height for Zones III, IV and IV.

Only Buildings of less than 15m height in Zone II can be analyzed by Equivalent static method, Who is checking this?

God only should save the people.

Thanking you

Regards

DESAI RAMMOHAN.




From: dipak_bhattacharya [mailto:forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)]
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:59 PM
To: general@sefindia.org (general@sefindia.org)
Subject: [SEFI] Re: Hospital collapse



Three fault-lines are passing through Delhi and NCR and Supertech is advertising, "our skyscrapers are nearer to moon". Or the future residents will reach earlier in heaven I do not know! But dishonesty in Indian business and commerce in an equally insensitive environments created by Executive and Legislative system of our country, scare me about such deathtraps.

Who , in this country , listen to the concerns highlighted by structural engineers? How much assurance RERA can give , is anybody's guess.


Dipak Bhattacharya / Delhi.


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