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Padmanabhan G SEFI Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 10

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:34 am Post subject: Design for impact load 


Dear Sir,
Can any one suggest how to design RCC strucutres particulary floor for impact load from obects that are dropped from certain height.
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sspawar ...
Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 1171

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: 


Dear ER. P'NABHAN,
Please refer books on Machine foundations. Somecode List is pasted below If you have access to these codes you can refer the same.
  IS 1499 : 1977 Method for Charpy Impact Test (Unotch) for Metals  2003  IS 1598 : 1977 Method for Izod Impact Test of Metals  2003  IS 1757 : 1988 Method for charpy impact test (V notch) for metallic material  2003  IS 2974 : Part 2 : 1980 Code of practice for design and construction of machine foundations: Part 2 Foundations for impact type machine (hammer foundations)  2008  IS 2974 : Part 5 : 1987 Code of practice for design and construction of machine:foundations Part 5 Foundations for impact machines other than hammers (forging and stamping press, pig breakers, drop crusher and jolter)  2008 
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vikram.jeet General Sponsor
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 2212

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:52 am Post subject: Design for impact load 


Impact Load on a floor:
Theoretically speaking,the impact loading is infinite on a rigid(non yielding)
body since the acceleration at time of impact is infinite due to instantaneous
change of velocity from value v to zero.But every elastic material
deforms and effect of impact may reduce .
Normally the Impact loading is taken 2 times the load dropped.
Based on contact area with floor, the load intensity could be worked out
and shall be within permissible bearing stress of floor material
Floors subjected to frequent impacts may be provided with ironite flooring
to reduce damage .Fibrereinforced concerte could also be thought of.
best regards
vikramjeet
Dear Sir,
Can any one suggest how to design RCC strucutres particulary floor for impact load from obects that are dropped from certain height.
With regards
Padmanabhan.G
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vikram.jeet General Sponsor
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 2212

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: Design for impact load 


Impact loading on various structures:
In continuation to earlier post,
Also refer IS 875(part2) for Impact loading on various structures
like Lifts & hoists and machinery, crane girders
IRC 6 for impact loading on Concrete and steel Bridges
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Yogesh.Pisal General Sponsor
Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 405

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: 


Dear Er Padmanabhan.G,
Here you need to firstly decide philosophy and then method of design. You can think of following points.
1. Decide the load path
e.g. If some object is dropping on RC slab then load path can be one way or two way depending on type of floor you are having.
In my opinion it is better to have one way bending (you can detail your slab accordingly).
Load path: Slab to Beams, Beams to Columns, Columns to foundation
2. Analysis and design of slab:
If magnitude of load is small then you can go for static design. As per strain energy theory you will end up with twice BM value in impact load as compared to static load
If load is huge then you have to go for dynamic analysis  Here you may need to go for displacement based design. You can use numerical integration for calculating response.
Refer: Introduction to structural Dynamics by Biggs or Dyanmics of Structures by AK Chopra.
3. Susequently consider the similar design for beams and columns
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lele_raj ...
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 145

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: Design for impact load 


...Also, for cyclic impact load (e.g. crushers, screens etc.) pl. don't forget to perform a dynamic analysis. It's preferred that at least first two, if not three, natural frequencies of the supporting structure don't match with the excitation frequency.
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Rajendra (Raj) Lele
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Impact loading on various structures:
In continuation to earlier post,
Also refer IS 875(part2) for Impact loading on various structures
like Lifts & hoists and machinery, crane girders
IRC 6 for impact loading on Concrete and steel Bridges
vikramjeet
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M_N_NISAR SEFI Member
Joined: 29 May 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Hyderabad, Andhra pradesh,India

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: lift design loads 


respected sefiance
i am just confused about the impact loading due to lift in a building
with reference to the given answers i want some basic and general concept ..some of my friends suggested me to double the dead loads on account of impact loading ..does in a lift horizontal loads my also occurs ??? and what will be the resultant ???
please suggest me
thanking you
m.n.nisar 

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sspawar ...
Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 1171

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: 


Dear Frnds,
Below article defines well regarding  Impact loading also summerise
why L_{imp }=2L

Generally when the strength of machine elements are considered it is assumed that the loading is static or applied gradually. This loading condition is often not the case, the loading may be cyclic requiring assessment for fatigue. Fatigue or it may involve impact or suddenly applied loads. When loads are applied suddenly and when the loads are applied as impact loads the resulting transient stresses (and deformations) induced in the machine elements are much higher than if the loads are applied gradually. This effect is shown in the diagram below
It is normal practice to design machines such that impact loads are eliminated or reduced by inclusion of shock absorbers. Inclusion of low cost, mass produced, shock absorbers can virtually eliminate the increased stresses and deformations resulting from impact loads.
Most ductile materials have strength properties which are a function of the loading speed. The more rapid the loading the higher the tensile and ultimate strengths of the materials. . Two standard tests, the Charpy and Izod, measure the impact energy (the energy required to fracture a test piece under an impact load), also called the notch toughness.
The detailed assessment of the strength of machine elements under impact loading regimes involves use of advanced techniques including Finite Element Analysis. Impact loads result in shock waves propogating through the elements with possible serious consequences. It is possible to complete a relatively simply stress evaluation for suddenly applied and impact loads by using the principle of conservation of energy and conditional that the materials considered are operating within their elastic regions.
The equations are most accurate for relatively heavy impacting masses moving at low velocities on impact.
Notation
 A = Area (m^{2})
 E = Modulus of Elasticity (N/m^{2})
 h = Drop distance (m)
 k =Stiffness (N/m)
 M = Massmoving body (kg)
 M_{1} = Mass of static bar or beam (kg)
 K = Factor to allow for energy loss at impact
 l = length of bar (l)
 t_{p} = time period (s)
 v = velocity (m/s)
 W = Weight  moving body(N)

V = Velocity (m/s)
w = Specific Weight (kg/m^{3})
σ = stress (N/m^{2})
σ _{stat} = stress resulting from static load(N/m^{2})
δ = deflection (m)
δ _{stat} = deflection resulting from static load(m)
μ = Ratio Moving Mass/Stationary bar
β = Constant = A Sqrt(wEg/W)  see text 
Linear Impact deflections and stresses (gravity loads)
Important note: The notes below represent a very simple view of the loading condition and do not consider more real case involving shock waves being propagated through the loaded member or the moving mass
Consider a loading regime as shown below with a ring of Mass M(kg) with weight W= M.g(N) being dropped through a distance h onto a collar supported by a vertical bar which behaves as a spring with a stiffness of k (N/m).
The support bar has a length l (m), an Area A (m^{2} ) With a modulus of elasticity E (N/m^{2} )
In practice the weight would impact onto the support which would elastically deform until all of the potential energy has been absorbed. The support would then contract initiating damped oscillations until the system assumes a stable static position. The equations below determine the initial maximum deformation which provides the most highly stressed condition.
In accordance with conservation of energy the potential energy of the weight is converted to elastic strain energy.
This may be expressed as a quadratic equation
This is solved for the maximum deflection
δ
_{max} as follows
The weight applied gradually would result in a deflection
δ
_{st} thus
Note:
The stiffness k = Force /Deflection = F / δ : E = stress /strain = σ /e = (F /A) /( δ /l) Therefore k = EA/l
Substituting this into the equation for δ _{max} results in
This can be expressed as
The resultant maximum force is simply P_{max} = k δ _{max}
and the resultant maximum stress = σ _{max} = P_{max}/ A
This may be expressed as
For the calculation of the stress due to a suddenly applied load with h = 0
σ _{max} = 2 σ _{st}
Linear impact deflections and stresses (kinetic impacts )
Important note: The notes below represent a very simple view of the loading condition and do not consider more real case involving shock waves being propagated through the loaded member or the moving mass
Impact loads based pimarily on kinetic energy e.g horizontal impacts are treated slightly differently. For these applications the kinetic energy is converted into stored energy due to elasticity of the resisting element.
Consider a Mass M(kg) with a velocity of v impacting on a collar which is supported by a bar with a stiffness of K (N/m)  Ignoring gravitational forces.
The kinetic energy of the mass Mv^{2} /2 is transformed into stored energy in the support.
The resulting equation is
The resultant maximum deflection equals..
Noting that the static deflection = Wl/AE this equation can be written
The equivalent maximum stress =
Noting that the static deflection = Wl/AE this equation can be written
Beams
Using similar principles as expressed above it can be easily proved using principles of conservation of energy that.
and
If the impact is horizontal instead of vertical . The resulting deformation and stress resulting from the impact are
Note: The above approximate relationships can been applied generally to most structural systems subject to distortion with the elastic range when subject to impact loading
Energy losses on impact
The above equations are very approximate and include many assumptions. A very important assumption is that all of the energy ( based on h or v^{2}) is used up in producing the same distortion as would result from static loading. In reality, some kinetic energy is lost in internal friction. Account can be taken for these losses by multiplying h or v^{2} by an appropriate factor K. This factor is derived from the Mass of the moving body (M) and the mass of the beam or bar (M_{1}). The factor is different for different loading systems ass follows.
In the equations above h or v^{2} would be replaced by K.h or K v^{2}
The K factor is nearest unity when M is large compared to M_{1} . As an example for the axial impact
if M_{1}/M is say 0,1 then K = 0,95..
if M_{1}/M is say 10 then K = 0,15..
This is illustrated in the figure below
1) A moving mass M striking axially one end of a bar of mass M_{1}. The other end of the bar being fixed...
2) A moving mass M striking traversely the end of a beam of mass M_{1}...
3) A moving mass M striking traversely the center of a beam with simple supported ends of mass M_{1}....
4) A moving mass M striking traversely the center of a beam with fixed ends of mass M_{1}. ..
Impact stresses considering propagation of shock waves Unsupported bar
When a impact force is suddenly applied to and elastic body , a wave of stress is propogated traveling through the body with a velocity..
w = weight /unit volume (kg/m^{2}), v = velocity (m/s)
The unsupported bar subject to the longitudonal impact from a rigid body with velocity v experiences a wave of compressive stress of intensity
σ
.
If the mass of the moving body is very large compared to the mass of the bar the wave of compression bounces back from the far end of the bar as a wave of tension and returns to the struck end after a time period .
t _{p} = 2L / V
If the mass of the moving body is very large compared to the bar so that it can be considered infinite then after breaking contact the moving bar will move away from the impacting mass with a velocity of v_{b}= 2v. The moving bar will be stress free.
If the mass of the impinging body is
μ
time the mass of the bar then the bar will move away with an average velocity of
The moving bar is left vibrating with a stress intensity of
Impacts considering propagation of shock waves bar with one end supported
For the case of a bar with one end fixed , the wave of compressive stress resulting from the impact on the unsupported end is reflected back unchanged from the supported (fixed end) and combines with the advancing waves to produce a maximum stress approximately equal to..
μ
= Mass of Moving Body/Mass of Bar

please refer These Threads also 
http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Fatigue/Mechanics_Impact.html
http://www.pdhcenter.com/courses/s164/s164content.pdf
http://people.virginia.edu/~lz2n/mse209/Chapter8.pdf

One thing I want to add  Ironite or any treatment against wear and tear of top surface can never be associate with Impact resistance.
Wear and tear or abration of an substance or object is measured by its hardness.
Impact resistance is measured by its toughness or stiffness.
Fatigue or durability is measured by its soundness.
Comprressive strength is measured by its crushing value.
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vikram.jeet General Sponsor
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 2212

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: Design for impact load 


Dear Er MN Nisar,
As per IS 875(part2) , Imact loading can be taken without any reservations/confusions
For frames supporting Lifts & Hoists                        100%
For foundations,footings and piers supporting               40%
Lifts and hoisting apparatus
Generally in cranes , horizontal loads (in transverse as well as longitudinal
direction ) occur due to braking/tractive efforts on crane movement which is
horizontal . But for Lifts which are hoisted on pulley drum through ropes
and move within vertical members (guide rails) and movement is only vertical, the
question of horizontal loading does not arise under normal conditions(i.e. non seismic)
Lifts are also provided with shock/Impact absorber( Buffers) in Lift pit to safeguard
in event of lift failure
best regards
vikramjeet
respected sefiance
i am just confused about the impact loading due to lift in a building
with reference to the given answers i want some basic and general concept ..some of my friends suggested me to double the dead loads on account of impact loading ..does in a lift horizontal loads my also occurs ??? and what will be the resultant ???
please suggest me
thanking you
m.n.nisar
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Heena SEFI Member
Joined: 10 Sep 2019 Posts: 2

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:58 am Post subject: 


sspawar wrote:  Dear Frnds,
Below article defines well regarding  Impact loading also summerise
why L_{imp }=2L

Generally when the strength of machine elements are considered it is assumed that the loading is static or applied gradually. This loading condition is often not the case, the loading may be cyclic requiring assessment for fatigue. Fatigue or it may involve impact or suddenly applied loads. When loads are applied suddenly and when the loads are applied as impact loads the resulting transient stresses (and deformations) induced in the Design of Machine Elements are much higher than if the loads are applied gradually. This effect is shown in the diagram below
It is normal practice to design machines such that impact loads are eliminated or reduced by inclusion of shock absorbers. Inclusion of low cost, mass produced, shock absorbers can virtually eliminate the increased stresses and deformations resulting from impact loads.
Most ductile materials have strength properties which are a function of the loading speed. The more rapid the loading the higher the tensile and ultimate strengths of the materials. . Two standard tests, the Charpy and Izod, measure the impact energy (the energy required to fracture a test piece under an impact load), also called the notch toughness.
The detailed assessment of the strength of machine elements under impact loading regimes involves use of advanced techniques including Finite Element Analysis. Impact loads result in shock waves propogating through the elements with possible serious consequences. It is possible to complete a relatively simply stress evaluation for suddenly applied and impact loads by using the principle of conservation of energy and conditional that the materials considered are operating within their elastic regions.
The equations are most accurate for relatively heavy impacting masses moving at low velocities on impact.
Notation
 A = Area (m^{2})
 E = Modulus of Elasticity (N/m^{2})
 h = Drop distance (m)
 k =Stiffness (N/m)
 M = Massmoving body (kg)
 M_{1} = Mass of static bar or beam (kg)
 K = Factor to allow for energy loss at impact
 l = length of bar (l)
 t_{p} = time period (s)
 v = velocity (m/s)
 W = Weight  moving body(N)

V = Velocity (m/s)
w = Specific Weight (kg/m^{3})
σ = stress (N/m^{2})
σ _{stat} = stress resulting from static load(N/m^{2})
δ = deflection (m)
δ _{stat} = deflection resulting from static load(m)
μ = Ratio Moving Mass/Stationary bar
β = Constant = A Sqrt(wEg/W)  see text 
Linear Impact deflections and stresses (gravity loads)
Important note: The notes below represent a very simple view of the loading condition and do not consider more real case involving shock waves being propagated through the loaded member or the moving mass
Consider a loading regime as shown below with a ring of Mass M(kg) with weight W= M.g(N) being dropped through a distance h onto a collar supported by a vertical bar which behaves as a spring with a stiffness of k (N/m).
The support bar has a length l (m), an Area A (m^{2} ) With a modulus of elasticity E (N/m^{2} )
In practice the weight would impact onto the support which would elastically deform until all of the potential energy has been absorbed. The support would then contract initiating damped oscillations until the system assumes a stable static position. The equations below determine the initial maximum deformation which provides the most highly stressed condition.
In accordance with conservation of energy the potential energy of the weight is converted to elastic strain energy.
This may be expressed as a quadratic equation
This is solved for the maximum deflection
δ
_{max} as follows
The weight applied gradually would result in a deflection
δ
_{st} thus
Note:
The stiffness k = Force /Deflection = F / δ : E = stress /strain = σ /e = (F /A) /( δ /l) Therefore k = EA/l
Substituting this into the equation for δ _{max} results in
This can be expressed as
The resultant maximum force is simply P_{max} = k δ _{max}
and the resultant maximum stress = σ _{max} = P_{max}/ A
This may be expressed as
For the calculation of the stress due to a suddenly applied load with h = 0
σ _{max} = 2 σ _{st}
Linear impact deflections and stresses (kinetic impacts )
Important note: The notes below represent a very simple view of the loading condition and do not consider more real case involving shock waves being propagated through the loaded member or the moving mass
Impact loads based pimarily on kinetic energy e.g horizontal impacts are treated slightly differently. For these applications the kinetic energy is converted into stored energy due to elasticity of the resisting element.
Consider a Mass M(kg) with a velocity of v impacting on a collar which is supported by a bar with a stiffness of K (N/m)  Ignoring gravitational forces.
The kinetic energy of the mass Mv^{2} /2 is transformed into stored energy in the support.
The resulting equation is
The resultant maximum deflection equals..
Noting that the static deflection = Wl/AE this equation can be written
The equivalent maximum stress =
Noting that the static deflection = Wl/AE this equation can be written
Beams
Using similar principles as expressed above it can be easily proved using principles of conservation of energy that.
and
If the impact is horizontal instead of vertical . The resulting deformation and stress resulting from the impact are
Note: The above approximate relationships can been applied generally to most structural systems subject to distortion with the elastic range when subject to impact loading
Energy losses on impact
The above equations are very approximate and include many assumptions. A very important assumption is that all of the energy ( based on h or v^{2}) is used up in producing the same distortion as would result from static loading. In reality, some kinetic energy is lost in internal friction. Account can be taken for these losses by multiplying h or v^{2} by an appropriate factor K. This factor is derived from the Mass of the moving body (M) and the mass of the beam or bar (M_{1}). The factor is different for different loading systems ass follows.
In the equations above h or v^{2} would be replaced by K.h or K v^{2}
The K factor is nearest unity when M is large compared to M_{1} . As an example for the axial impact
if M_{1}/M is say 0,1 then K = 0,95..
if M_{1}/M is say 10 then K = 0,15..
This is illustrated in the figure below
1) A moving mass M striking axially one end of a bar of mass M_{1}. The other end of the bar being fixed...
2) A moving mass M striking traversely the end of a beam of mass M_{1}...
3) A moving mass M striking traversely the center of a beam with simple supported ends of mass M_{1}....
4) A moving mass M striking traversely the center of a beam with fixed ends of mass M_{1}. ..
Impact stresses considering propagation of shock waves Unsupported bar
When a impact force is suddenly applied to and elastic body , a wave of stress is propogated traveling through the body with a velocity..
w = weight /unit volume (kg/m^{2}), v = velocity (m/s)
The unsupported bar subject to the longitudonal impact from a rigid body with velocity v experiences a wave of compressive stress of intensity
σ
.
If the mass of the moving body is very large compared to the mass of the bar the wave of compression bounces back from the far end of the bar as a wave of tension and returns to the struck end after a time period .
t _{p} = 2L / V
If the mass of the moving body is very large compared to the bar so that it can be considered infinite then after breaking contact the moving bar will move away from the impacting mass with a velocity of v_{b}= 2v. The moving bar will be stress free.
If the mass of the impinging body is
μ
time the mass of the bar then the bar will move away with an average velocity of
The moving bar is left vibrating with a stress intensity of
Impacts considering propagation of shock waves bar with one end supported
For the case of a bar with one end fixed , the wave of compressive stress resulting from the impact on the unsupported end is reflected back unchanged from the supported (fixed end) and combines with the advancing waves to produce a maximum stress approximately equal to..
μ
= Mass of Moving Body/Mass of Bar

please refer These Threads also 
http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Fatigue/Mechanics_Impact.html
http://www.pdhcenter.com/courses/s164/s164content.pdf
http://people.virginia.edu/~lz2n/mse209/Chapter8.pdf

One thing I want to add  Ironite or any treatment against wear and tear of top surface can never be associate with Impact resistance.
Wear and tear or abration of an substance or object is measured by its hardness.
Impact resistance is measured by its toughness or stiffness.
Fatigue or durability is measured by its soundness.
Comprressive strength is measured by its crushing value.
Regards 
Hello sspawar,
Thank you for sharing this valuableinformation.
Will you please share more information about Design of Machine Elements?
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