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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:30 am    Post subject: What's happening to India's infrastructure? Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing Arvind and I've gone through it just now; so no exam to get your PE Certificate? and no CPD points to be earned every year?

regards
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:37 PM Arvind_Salecha <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:

[quote]            Dear All,Due to the efforts of the Civil Engineers in Karnataka, the Karnataka Professional Civil Engineers Act has been enacted and passed by the GoK. Similar acts need to be enacted in other states also. The act copy is attached for the kind reference of all. English version of the act is from page 16 onwards.


Regards,
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On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:58 PM sangeeta_wij forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org))> wrote:

[quote]            Alok, I agree with everything you've mentioned about one's professional growth and the need for continuous skill enhancement etc; however the point I've made is regarding reluctance of structural engineers in coming forward and going through the accreditation process.This I feel will happen only once we have a Bill and a Council and it becomes mandatory to get a PE license.

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Sangeeta


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In continuation of my suggestion regarding Major Urban structures / structures affecting large populations,  An URBAN STRUCTURES COMMISSION  , be constituted and it's Major role will be :-

To see that :-
(A) Soil Investigation Report from competent Geotech agency for specific site is available or Not .
Many times, it is seen that owner / contractors avoid expenses on soil report and adopt adjoing dite,, or some times based on assumptions. This Body will see to it that SReprt of site in question be there or not.

Many failures happened due this short cut practices.

(B) Projects handling Prime  Structural Consultant  competency,,

(C) Proof Checking Independent Consultant must be in place and appointed by owner ( and not by contractor)

(D) Expertise of Proof consultant needs to be more than Prime consultant

(E) Presentations need to be given by prime Consultant,, in presence of proof consultant, before the Commission,,

(F) QA/QC to be ensured and owner must undertake to appointment PRoject Management Consultant . And when appointed,, intimation to Commission.

(G) As Executed Drgs / As executed remarks on GFC drgs must be submitted after completion.


Idea I s that Structural work, which is highly safety specific,, needs to be properly organised to see Failure free and durable syructures.


Without PMC, no approval




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:30 am    Post subject: What's happening to India's infrastructure? Reply with quote

Dear all,

Can we expect this Engg bill can be work  every where,as this is needed for the status n importance of Engg.


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           Thanks for sharing Arvind and I've gone through it just now; so no exam to get your PE Certificate? and no CPD points to be earned every year?

regards
Sangeeta Wij


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           Dear All,Due to the efforts of the Civil Engineers in Karnataka, the Karnataka Professional Civil Engineers Act has been enacted and passed by the GoK. Similar acts need to be enacted in other states also. The act copy is attached for the kind reference of all. English version of the act is from page 16 onwards.


Regards,
Aravind Salecha


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           Alok, I agree with everything you've mentioned about one's professional growth and the need for continuous skill enhancement etc; however the point I've made is regarding reluctance of structural engineers in coming forward and going through the accreditation process.This I feel will happen only once we have a Bill and a Council and it becomes mandatory to get a PE license.

Regards
Sangeeta


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:30 am    Post subject: What's happening to India's infrastructure? Reply with quote

Madam,A KPCE council will be set up. They will frame the rules for registration and getting the PE licence. As per my understanding, initially, the registration and PE will be available easily. After 3-5 years, the detailed rules for CPD and renewal of PE will be formed. Also, in case of any negligence/unethical practice or complaint against the person, the council can even revoke the certificate and he/she cant practice in Karnataka.


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On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:54 PM sangeeta_wij <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:

[quote]            Thanks for sharing Arvind and I've gone through it just now; so no exam to get your PE Certificate? and no CPD points to be earned every year?

regards
Sangeeta Wij


On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:37 PM Arvind_Salecha forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org))> wrote:

[quote]            Dear All,Due to the efforts of the Civil Engineers in Karnataka, the Karnataka Professional Civil Engineers Act has been enacted and passed by the GoK. Similar acts need to be enacted in other states also. The act copy is attached for the kind reference of all. English version of the act is from page 16 onwards.


Regards,
Aravind Salecha


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           Alok, I agree with everything you've mentioned about one's professional growth and the need for continuous skill enhancement etc; however the point I've made is regarding reluctance of structural engineers in coming forward and going through the accreditation process.This I feel will happen only once we have a Bill and a Council and it becomes mandatory to get a PE license.

Regards
Sangeeta


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:30 pm    Post subject: What's happening to India's infrastructure? Reply with quote

will it create importance of civil engineer to common man and architect community.or fault of others will also be born by civil professional.From: forum@sefindia.org
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           Madam,A KPCE council will be set up. They will frame the rules for registration and getting the PE licence. As per my understanding, initially, the registration and PE will be available easily. After 3-5 years, the detailed rules for CPD and renewal of PE will be formed. Also, in case of any negligence/unethical practice or complaint against the person, the council can even revoke the certificate and he/she cant practice in Karnataka.   Regards, Aravind Salecha   On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:54 PM sangeeta_wij  wrote:  [quote]            Thanks for sharing Arvind and I've gone through it just now; so no exam to get your PE Certificate? and no CPD points to be earned every year?  regards Sangeeta Wij   On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:37 PM Arvind_Salecha forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org))> wrote:  [quote]            Dear All,Due to the efforts of the Civil Engineers in Karnataka, the Karnataka Professional Civil Engineers Act has been enacted and passed by the GoK. Similar acts need to be enacted in other states also. The act copy is attached for the kind reference of all. English version of the act is from page 16 onwards.   Regards, Aravind Salecha   On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:58 PM sangeeta_wij forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org) (forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)))> wrote:         --auto removed--

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:57 am    Post subject: Coordination & Quality Reply with quote

Coordination & Quality
Regret to state that in ours, Engineers can discuss & debate, without having any focus on real objective
Engineering community has failed to learn & apply Coordination & Quality!
Who bothers?
I heve never seen since this forum started, any conference or even postings related resposes on this requirement
Quality is too significant, but designers just imagine that site would achieve that automatically
No law can bring quality & no one can spend time on coordination
Coordination & Quality have not been understood by out engineers at all located at  levels
Quality requirement cannot be just converted to a signed paper formality
And, coordination is also, not done while designing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Coordination & Quality Reply with quote

I fully endorse the concerns expressed by  Respected Engineer Sir Suraj Singh Saheb,,
Being designer, whole my career ,, I came to this conclusion that
QUALITY CONSTRUCTION  REQUIRES PAINS TAKING EFFORTS IN EXECUTION. IT IS NOT A GOODIE GOODIE JOB .

Where PMC is not there,, Quality is often ignored, and left to masons /mates in lower ladder, and supervising engineers take everything granted  without putting ample time in checkings,, corrections before concrete work.  No one bothers about CURING,, WHICH IS HIGHLY IGNORED AT SITES.

AS ALREADY Reiterated A PERFECT DESIGN CAN MEET BAD RESULTS,, IF QA ASPECTS ARE IGNORED.

I salute Suraj Saheb for echoing QUALITY ISSUES ON SEFI  and all designers also, need to know, the adequacy of designs is directly related to Quality.






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Coordination & Quality
Regret to state that in ours, Engineers can discuss & debate, without having any focus on real objective
Engineering community has failed to learn & apply Coordination & Quality!
Who bothers?
I heve never seen since this forum started, any conference or even postings related resposes on this requirement
Quality is too significant, but designers just imagine that site would achieve that automatically
No law can bring quality & no one can spend time on coordination
Coordination & Quality have not been understood by out engineers at all located at  levels
Quality requirement cannot be just converted to a signed paper formality
And, coordination is also, not done while designing
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