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IS IT POSSIBLE TO DESIGN A 100mm WIDE BEAM, FOR CARRYING A UDL of 4 kN/m? AS PER IS CODE?

 
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renju mathew
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:49 am    Post subject: IS IT POSSIBLE TO DESIGN A 100mm WIDE BEAM, FOR CARRYING A UDL of 4 kN/m? AS PER IS CODE? Reply with quote

Dear All,
Is it possible to provide or design a 100 mm wide beam (of any depth) in order to carry a 10 cm thick wall  (weighs in between, 2 to 4 kN/m ).

Description of practical condition:  Two toilets are separated by a 10cm wall and the slabs are 25 cm sunken. It is not possible to provide 20cm wide beam, and also concealed beam.

A rough sketch is attached with this post.


Thanks in advance.
Renju Mathew.



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume that the two toilets are smaller in size, since a 20cm wide beam cannot be accommodated in between. In such a case, I believe, you can directly support the half brick wall that transmits relatively lighter load on the sunken slab itself. You can model the slab using plate elements with the load from the wall ( and the UDL)  and check the sufficiency of the depth of the slab and reinforcement, from Bending moment and Shear force points of view. A full length lintel of some depth provided at door height can reduce the load transferred to the wall.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 6:22 am    Post subject: Sir, why cannot a 20cm wide beam be used... Can you explain in detail Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE TO DESIGN A 100mm WIDE BEAM, FOR CARRYING A UDL of 4 kN/m? AS PER IS CODE? Reply with quote

You can do that, or you may simply provide a steel beam at the bottom.
you simply have to work out the depth required and then may  have to provide the rebar in multiple layers.




renju mathew wrote:
Dear All,
Is it possible to provide or design a 100 mm wide beam (of any depth) in order to carry a 10 cm thick wall  (weighs in between, 2 to 4 kN/m ).

Description of practical condition:  Two toilets are separated by a 10cm wall and the slabs are 25 cm sunken. It is not possible to provide 20cm wide beam, and also concealed beam.

A rough sketch is attached with this post.


Thanks in advance.
Renju Mathew.
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