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kawshik9  Joined: 28 Oct 2009
Posts: 16 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:25 am    Post subject: SHEAR FORCE IN TWO WAY SLAB Hello SEFI Members, I have a query regarding shear force calculation in two way slab design. Kindly clarify my doubt.

I used to check the  slab for  maximum shear force of w(lx-d)/2 , lx=shorter span. d= effective depth.  But, in one of the documents i have seen that shear force is calculated as

Maximum shear force intensity in either direction = w.Lx . [r/(2r+1)] where r =ly/lx (longer span to shorter span ratio)

I would like to know the basis for above calculations and reference (if any) for the above equation. Please find the design calculations in the attachement for clarity.

Thank you

Ramakanth

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Posts: 3470 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm    Post subject: Dear Er Two way slab - shear check The load distribution in two way slab  is in triangular (short span ) and trapezoidal (long span). Shear check in slab is to be made at location of maximum load intensity ,  and the formula w(Lx - d)/2  followed by you is ok. In  any such two way slab max load intensity is at longer beams and has to be as shown by you, i.e 0.50 Lx The formula wlx(R / 2R+1) seems equivalent udL on beam for BM . For R=1 ,  equivalent udL = wLx/3 which is equivalent UDL for square panel . For R =2 , equivalent udL works to 0.40 Lx from this formula  but it works to 0.458 wLx from exact formula. However value of 0.50Lx is in place   vikram.jeet Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 3470 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject: TWO WAY SLABS - EQUIVALENT UDL FORMULAS Just to further elaborate : Equivalent udL on beam for BM The equivalent udL is the UdL which generate same simply suppoerted BM at center as the triangular / trapezoid load on beam If m=ly/Lx ,  Lx is short span of panel of size Lx  ×. Ly The  equivalent udL for BM = wLx/3  on short span beam = (wLx/6 )*(3 - m^2)  on long span beam Equivalent udL for shear force on beams at support = wLx/4 on short span beam = (wLx/4)*(2 - m) on long span beam of panel But for checking shear force in slab , the above formulas are not required . Only from trapezoid load distribution in two way slabs , one can easily say that max SF in slab is wLx/2 at points of maximum load intensity.s.   es_jayakumar Joined: 24 Nov 2011
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Location: Cochin Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:06 pm    Post subject: I hope, the attached material will be useful in this context :

E S Jayakumar

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Posts: 3470 Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:55 am    Post subject: m = Lx/Ly.  , Lx short span
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Inconvenience regretted

 vikram.jeet wrote: TWO WAY SLABS - EQUIVALENT UDL FORMULAS Just to further elaborate : Equivalent udL on beam for BM The equivalent udL is the UdL which generate same simply suppoerted BM at center as the triangular / trapezoid load on beam If m=ly/Lx ,  Lx is short span of panel of size Lx  ×. Ly The  equivalent udL for BM = wLx/3  on short span beam = (wLx/6 )*(3 - m^2)  on long span beam Equivalent udL for shear force on beams at support = wLx/4 on short span beam = (wLx/4)*(2 - m) on long span beam of panel But for checking shear force in slab , the above formulas are not required . Only from trapezoid load distribution in two way slabs , one can easily say that max SF in slab is wLx/2 at points of maximum load intensity.s.   vikram.jeet Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 3470 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:13 am    Post subject: The content enlightened by Er E S Jayakumar is very exact as different panel edge conditions  are covered.

Reynold's  Handbook also provides coefficients for equivalent UDL on supporting beams for various edge conditions , for BM and Shear force  separately.

 es_jayakumar wrote: I hope, the attached material will be useful in this context : E S Jayakumar   es_jayakumar Joined: 24 Nov 2011
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Location: Cochin Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:10 am    Post subject: I analysed the square slab in question using plate elements of STAAD, for 3 edges discontinuous and one edge fixed  condition. The findings are as below : 1. Total support reaction on the continuous (fixed) edge= 652.3 kN 2. Total support reaction on the discontinuous edge opposite to the fixed edge = 384.9 kN 3. The support reaction on the other two lateral discontinuous edges parallel to each other = 299.3 kN each 4. The total load  = 652.3 + 384.9 + 2x299.3 = 1636 kN 5. The total load as per design data in the Excel sheet  = 52.6 kN/m2 x 5.575m x 5.575m = 1635 kN 6. The load shared in the continuous-discontinuous direction = 6520.3+384.9 = 1037.2 kN 7. The load shared in the discontinuous-discontinuous direction = 2x 299.3 = 599 kN 8. The proportion of load shared in the continuous-discontinuous direction = 1037.2 / 1636 = 0.63 9. The same, as per the formula given in the above table [5h4/(2+5h4) ] = 0.71 (in this case, h= 1) 10. Maximum (average) Shear force per metre ( at the continuous edge) = 652.3 kN/5.575m = 117 kN ( an SF of 97.8kN is seen considered in the Excel sheet) ES Jayakumar   vikram.jeet Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 3470 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:36 am    Post subject: Very nice illustration by Er ES Jayakumar.

Please keep it up for benefit of one and all.

 es_jayakumar wrote: I analysed the square slab in question using plate elements of STAAD, for 3 edges discontinuous and one edge fixed  condition. The findings are as below : 1. Total support reaction on the continuous (fixed) edge= 652.3 kN 2. Total support reaction on the discontinuous edge opposite to the fixed edge = 384.9 kN 3. The support reaction on the other two lateral discontinuous edges parallel to each other = 299.3 kN each 4. The total load  = 652.3 + 384.9 + 2x299.3 = 1636 kN 5. The total load as per design data in the Excel sheet  = 52.6 kN/m2 x 5.575m x 5.575m = 1635 kN 6. The load shared in the continuous-discontinuous direction = 6520.3+384.9 = 1037.2 kN 7. The load shared in the discontinuous-discontinuous direction = 2x 299.3 = 599 kN 8. The proportion of load shared in the continuous-discontinuous direction = 1037.2 / 1636 = 0.63 9. The same, as per the formula given in the above table [5h4/(2+5h4) ] = 0.71 (in this case, h= 1) 10. Maximum (average) Shear force per metre ( at the continuous edge) = 652.3 kN/5.575m = 117 kN ( an SF of 97.8kN is seen considered in the Excel sheet) ES Jayakumar   kawshik9  Joined: 28 Oct 2009
Posts: 16 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:33 am    Post subject: Thank you very much Er. Vikram.jeet and Er.ES Jayakumar for sparing time to clear my query and sharing the concept , different references and even illustrating the same with Plate model for calculating load distribution in two way slab. It helped a lot in my work. I could find that slab is under designed for shear force, As the shear force calculated in the excel  gives the Load share on Beam but not the shear force per unit strip. Ramakanth   es_jayakumar Joined: 24 Nov 2011
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Location: Cochin Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:33 pm    Post subject: You are welcome, Er.Ramakanth.... N.Subramanian sir, in his famous book "Design of Reinforced Concrete Structures" has given a table (TABLE 10.5, page-375) that lists coefficients to work out shear forces in two-way restrained slabs. This is table is very handy. Using the relevant coefficient of  this table, the maximum Shear Force in the present case (at the continuous edge) = 0.45 x 52.63 x 5.575 = 132 kN E S Jayakumar   Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First

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