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Anjan7601 SEFI Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:50 pm Post subject: Design of edge footing |
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I have found several posts on this topic. But practically column has axial load and moment in X & Z direction as well. I didn't find any reference to design such type of footing on edge(property line) where moment is considered in X & Z direction.
Can anyone help ke regarding this design please. |
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va ...
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:30 am Post subject: Design of edge footing |
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Dear Anjan,
You have to check the pressure at the base of footing and check that eccentricity e=M/P is within middle third of footing base to confirm no tension condition. Generally, there will be one predominant moment at a time for wind or EQ loads. If part of footing is going in tension, you need to design a combined footing.
Regards.
Hemant Vadalkar
Consulting Engineer Mumbai.
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CRUTHIDESIGNS SEFI Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:30 am Post subject: Design of edge footing |
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why we are not using torsional reinforcement in roof beams when one secondary beam is joining with main beam which is resting on the columns( fixed)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 20:53, va <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Anjan,
You have to check the pressure at the base of footing and check that eccentricity e=M/P is within middle third of footing base to confirm no tension condition. Generally, there will be one predominant moment at a time for wind or EQ loads. If part of footing is going in tension, you need to design a combined footing.
Regards.
Hemant Vadalkar
Consulting Engineer Mumbai.
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CRUTHIDESIGNS SEFI Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:30 am Post subject: Design of edge footing |
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in software release command using to full release or partial release where the secondary beam rests.
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 at 13:31, KARANAM JBRAO <cruthidesigns@gmail.com (cruthidesigns@gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]why we are not using torsional reinforcement in roof beams when one secondary beam is joining with main beam which is resting on the columns( fixed)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 20:53, va <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Anjan,
You have to check the pressure at the base of footing and check that eccentricity e=M/P is within middle third of footing base to confirm no tension condition. Generally, there will be one predominant moment at a time for wind or EQ loads. If part of footing is going in tension, you need to design a combined footing.
Regards.
Hemant Vadalkar
Consulting Engineer Mumbai.
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CRUTHIDESIGNS SEFI Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:30 am Post subject: Design of edge footing |
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infact the secondary beams are rests on the main beam are monolithic, so are not simple supported,
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 at 13:33, KARANAM JBRAO <cruthidesigns@gmail.com (cruthidesigns@gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]in software release command using to full release or partial release where the secondary beam rests.
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 at 13:31, KARANAM JBRAO <cruthidesigns@gmail.com (cruthidesigns@gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]why we are not using torsional reinforcement in roof beams when one secondary beam is joining with main beam which is resting on the columns( fixed)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 20:53, va <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Anjan,
You have to check the pressure at the base of footing and check that eccentricity e=M/P is within middle third of footing base to confirm no tension condition. Generally, there will be one predominant moment at a time for wind or EQ loads. If part of footing is going in tension, you need to design a combined footing.
Regards.
Hemant Vadalkar
Consulting Engineer Mumbai.
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rahul.leslie General Sponsor
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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In reality, the torsion of main beams get released after the first spiral crack in it... that's how it works.. so we are trying to mimic the stage after this cracking, by the releases provided. |
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mandagiri_balaramulu SEFI Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:30 pm Post subject: Design of edge footing |
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Dear Er.
I suggest to increase the 'd' of the column till plinth beam and provide designed column size from plinth beam top.
Example.
If column size is 350 x 600mm
Edge Footing size is 1500 x1800
Say one side 1800 side is edge of property and 1500 is parallel to 600 face of column
Provide the column size as 350 x1500 up to Plinth beam top and from plinth beam top onwards continue the designed column if 350 x 600.
The footing to be designed for equal pressure with a cantilever projection of (2000-350)/2=825 on either side.
Usually top of plinth beam to bottom of footing will be 3000mm minimum
So column will behave as a stepped column at foundation level 350x1500 and from plinth onwards 350x 600
This is my opinion.
M. Balaramulu
M. E.(str)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, 17:54 va, <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Anjan,
You have to check the pressure at the base of footing and check that eccentricity e=M/P is within middle third of footing base to confirm no tension condition. Generally, there will be one predominant moment at a time for wind or EQ loads. If part of footing is going in tension, you need to design a combined footing.
Regards.
Hemant Vadalkar
Consulting Engineer Mumbai.
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vikram.jeet General Sponsor
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Lot of discussion on this subject is available on forum,, pl see past ones,,
Also discussed in ' some general view ' serial posts |
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